The Charleston Battery fought their way back into the match at Colorado Springs, equalized in the 81st minute and appeared ready to escape with a valuable road point.
Then it all fell apart again.
In this episode of Cannon Crรผe, Granit, Patrick and Ryan break down Charlestonโs 2โ1 loss to the Switchbacks and confront the issue that has become impossible to ignore: the Batteryโs continuing inconsistency in goal.
The crew examines both Colorado Springs goals, whether Luis Zamudio should remain the unquestioned starter and how repeated mistakes from the goalkeeper can affect the confidence and decision-making of the entire team.
But the problems go beyond one position.
Charleston followed a June in which the club scored 16 goals in four league matches with a July that produced only four goals across four matches. The Battery remain near the top of the Eastern Conference, but poor road performances, defensive breakdowns and an inability to protect results have left the team stuck in a crowded group of contenders.
The conversation also expands into the larger direction of the club. Are the Battery doing enough on the field and behind the scenes to establish themselves as a future first-division organization? Where is the stadium vision? Is the club scouting and replacing departed talent effectively? And at what point do deep playoff runs need to become actual silverware?
The episode is not entirely doom and gloom. The crew highlights the performances of Jeremy Kelly, Nathan Messer, Malik Foster and Wilmer Cabrera, while discussing possible lineup changes that could help Charleston regain its attacking energy.
Finally, the guys preview the upcoming home match against Brooklyn FCโa team sitting near the bottom of the Eastern Conference that already defeated Charleston 3โ0 earlier this season.
For the Battery, this cannot be another flat performance against a struggling opponent. It is time to return the favor.
In this episode:
โข Patrick celebratesโor defendsโhis first yellow card
โข Charlestonโs disastrous road form
โข What went wrong on both Colorado Springs goals
โข Should the Battery rotate their goalkeepers?
โข How goalkeeping mistakes affect the entire team
โข Charlestonโs dramatic decline from June to July
โข Why the club struggles to maintain momentum
โข The Batteryโs first-division ambitions
โข Stadium development, scouting and roster replacement
โข Jeremy Kellyโs importance to the team
โข Why Malik Foster should receive more starts
โข Wilmer Cabreraโs impact from the bench
โข The importance of the upcoming Brooklyn FC rematch
โข Match predictions from Granit, Patrick and Ryan
The Battery are still in the fight near the top of the Eastern Conference. But as the season enters August, the excuses are running out.
Welcome to the can crew.
Speaker APatrick, what's up?
Speaker BWell, it's just out here living what.
Speaker AKind of life you living?
Speaker BReally good life, just filled with relaxation, tons of money, so no stress.
Speaker BYeah, just perfect life.
Speaker ARyan, how about you, sir?
Speaker CPicking up again.
Speaker CIt's this busy on the go.
Speaker CClub is starting off and excited.
Speaker CJust started this week and we got two teams this year, so going to be interesting.
Speaker ACool.
Speaker AVery good teams.
Speaker AAt what level?
Speaker CI got U15 at PMSL and then U19 at NAL.
Speaker AWell, I wanted to make a major announcement, so one of the three of us got a major award the other night.
Speaker APatrick, can you talk to us about your yellow card you earned?
Speaker BYeah, it was honestly an amazing tackle.
Speaker AWhich one?
Speaker AThe first or third?
Speaker BAll of them.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BI mean, we can go to the guy who sees everything on the field, the keeper, and he goes, wow.
Speaker BI mean, I saw it.
Speaker BYou won the ball.
Speaker BI don't know how you could get a foul yet alone a yellow card for that.
Speaker AThat was their keeper too.
Speaker BAnd I said, well, you know, man, sometimes it's just haters going to hate.
Speaker BHate the player, not the game.
Speaker BAnd so I got the card.
Speaker BJust so happens it was my daughter's first time ever watching me play soccer.
Speaker BI've never gotten a yellow card in this league ever.
Speaker BSo next time I'll go for red.
Speaker ARyan's got that.
Speaker AGot that one.
Speaker AWell, it's funny because I've never seen another card given out for what you did three years ago.
Speaker AAnd Patrick just bumps this guy and he.
Speaker AIt was just odd.
Speaker AAnd when you're a number nine, because that's what he had in the back of his jersey, he was playing like a number nine.
Speaker AWhen you're number nine, I think you have an obligation to flop around and look up and wave your hands in here.
Speaker BBut anyways, you're also near like.
Speaker BI mean, I'm on pace with you, shoulder to shoulder.
Speaker BAnd if we're going to the box and I win the ball and then I also body you off of it at the same time.
Speaker BIt's called.
Speaker BIt's immensely.
Speaker BSo just be stronger.
Speaker BDon't be a little.
Speaker AIt's a.
Speaker AIt's a card all the time.
Speaker AAll the time.
Speaker BWhat about this?
Speaker BWell, then I could.
Speaker BI should have got three yellow cards.
Speaker CYou.
Speaker AYou did.
Speaker AIn my heart, you hit three yellow cards in my.
Speaker BSo every single tackle is clean and it was all the same result.
Speaker CSo how many cards did I get?
Speaker AHow many times did you play?
Speaker CI full C. I did a full siege only once.
Speaker AI had to Go to the carpet for you because it was that red card.
Speaker AHad to do a little explaining on the side with the director, the lead director.
Speaker BMaybe we'll get Ryan back out there on Wednesday.
Speaker BMaybe, Maybe.
Speaker AMaybe.
Speaker ASo let's talk about.
Speaker ASo we won that match, right?
Speaker AWe did.
Speaker ADid pretty well.
Speaker AThe reason why we won, and I claim this, it's all due to me.
Speaker AI limited my playing time, but the three minutes I was out there, the other team did not score a goal on us.
Speaker AThat's all I got to say.
Speaker CBecome ARM on Wednesday.
Speaker AGood, because I think we're playing Tuesday, but you should come out Wednesday, too.
Speaker AAnyways, so let's talk about the Charleston battery.
Speaker AAnd Patrick had a graphic to show us earlier.
Speaker AHe said this is the only battery that's working.
Speaker BOh, yeah, I got to pull it out of my remote.
Speaker BYeah, this is the only one that actually works.
Speaker BSo this battery right here doesn't just give up goals.
Speaker BIt's consistent.
Speaker BWhen I need it to work, it works.
Speaker BIt works.
Speaker BWell, unlike the battery we're watching on the pitch that, I don't know, just can't seem to hold it together.
Speaker BI mean, this is.
Speaker BI assume it's just a waveform that we can't.
Speaker BWe can't get anything when we go on the road.
Speaker AWell, let's talk about some of the difficulties, right?
Speaker AIt's on a turf field and their altitude.
Speaker AI'm trying to think of other ones.
Speaker AWhat's the other difficulties?
Speaker AThey had to fly out there, right?
Speaker BThey probably just don't.
Speaker CHow you go against Colorado.
Speaker BDifferent grocery stores, maybe?
Speaker ADifferent grocery stores, maybe.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BGas stations, too, maybe.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker BIt's a long drive back.
Speaker AMaybe they.
Speaker AMaybe they already switched to their.
Speaker ATheir.
Speaker ATheir winter blend for gasoline.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker ADid Pyramid drive back?
Speaker BWell, I did see the Goodyear blimp the other day outside the windows.
Speaker BThey might have had a blimp at home.
Speaker AMaybe.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo we're not.
Speaker AWe're.
Speaker AOur keeper's not being consistent.
Speaker AWe've been consistent about him being not consistent.
Speaker CWe've talked about this for how long?
Speaker ASo long.
Speaker AEvery feeling.
Speaker AI know.
Speaker AI feel like I don't want to talk about anymore because now it sounds like we're just picking on the poor guy.
Speaker AHe's making it too easy.
Speaker BLet me ask you one thing real quick.
Speaker BWe continue to talk about it, and I feel like they put out four new Zamudio videos and interviews and, like, little insights, and it's like, I don't want to hear from this guy.
Speaker BYeah, until you play on the field.
Speaker BShow me someone else.
Speaker AThey won't even throw a ball at him, will they?
Speaker BWell, they can't.
Speaker BThat would throw anything at him,.
Speaker CI swear.
Speaker CAnd it's like this.
Speaker CIt's almost like it's one of those things where, like, does my phone hear me when we talk about him?
Speaker CAnd it populates that stuff.
Speaker CBut no, it's him doing battery commercials and little sponsorships on their stuff.
Speaker CLike, that's them doing it.
Speaker BI mean, he's obviously getting picked because he is the best PR guy in the place, I guess.
Speaker ALet's see, We.
Speaker AWe chased off.
Speaker AI don't know how we chased off Christian Gardner, who was fantastic with a couple games he got to play because we thought somebody was playing better.
Speaker ANow, maybe the other backup goalie we have.
Speaker AMaybe he.
Speaker AHe'll stick around another season.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AOh, that's right.
Speaker AWe don't have any more USL Cup.
Speaker AI just do it.
Speaker AOr pranks or whatever it's called.
Speaker BNo, a really awesome perk of being a season ticket member as you get these tickets to these cup games.
Speaker BAnd we never seem to go anywhere in a cup game.
Speaker BSo cool.
Speaker AOkay, Ryan, you're gonna say something.
Speaker AWe'll stop ranting about.
Speaker CHere's one thing to look at our overall form, right?
Speaker CAnd the last in the month of June.
Speaker CTake the month of June, for example, and I'm looking at my stuff right now.
Speaker CWe played five matches.
Speaker COne was a cup match.
Speaker CSo if you move the cup match, which was the first game of the month, out of the way, which would be Pittsburgh on pins.
Speaker CWe scored 16 goals in four games, Win 3, Ty Warren.
Speaker CYou go to the month of July where we played four games, and we lose three Ty Warren and score four goals.
Speaker CSo 16 goals in four games to four goals in four games.
Speaker BYeah, I mean, I think a lot of it is being on the road.
Speaker BWe've only gotten, what, nine goals in away matches this year.
Speaker BWe have a goal differential minus, I think, after this game, minus eight.
Speaker ASo what I'm seeing right here is a goal differential.
Speaker AWe have 22 goals at home, goal differential of minus seven.
Speaker AAnd then.
Speaker ANo, I'm sorry, I'm looking the wrong numbers.
Speaker AI'll shut up.
Speaker AKeep going.
Speaker AOh, there it is.
Speaker AThere's 50.
Speaker AGold differential is plus 15, and away is minus 7.
Speaker CYeah, so, I mean, in last month, we had three home games out of five.
Speaker CThis past.
Speaker CIn the month of July, we had two and two.
Speaker CTwo home games, two away games.
Speaker CI get away.
Speaker CWolves can take a Toll.
Speaker CColorado has always had our number in certain.
Speaker CIn certain times because we only played them a handful of times because they're so relatively near a club and on the other division.
Speaker ASo we want to play them every other year.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker CBut how?
Speaker CLike.
Speaker CLike Indy losing to Indy 2 is 0.
Speaker CThat and that.
Speaker CThat's a.
Speaker CThat's a team right there.
Speaker CThat should absolutely light us on fire when they beat us 5 to 0 at our own field.
Speaker CEver since that moment, I've always wanted to batter Andy every single time we played.
Speaker CI want us to battle drill in 5.
Speaker C0.
Speaker CEven more goals would be fantastic.
Speaker CAnd we don't see any type of.
Speaker CIt's not like you don't see any competition or rivalry or anything.
Speaker CIt was just like kind of like the traveling, but they're just dead.
Speaker CThey're not.
Speaker CThey just kind of stall.
Speaker CDo you think that the players just assumed it'd be easy?
Speaker BWhat.
Speaker CWhat do you guys think is actually going on behind the scenes right now?
Speaker AFrustration.
Speaker AThey can't get any momentum going.
Speaker AI think it just because they're.
Speaker AWe have great players, and when they connect, they connect well.
Speaker AJust sometimes we're not connecting well, and we've got to be strong on defense.
Speaker AGoals conceded per match this season, we're number 15 at 1.40.
Speaker AGoals per match were 1.90.
Speaker AIt looks like we're top of the league with Colorado Springs behind us.
Speaker CBut yeah, and that comes from literally in four games, we averaged four goals a game.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker ASo it's kind of.
Speaker AKind of skewed a little bit.
Speaker AI mean, we're having possession best in.
Speaker AIt looks like the league.
Speaker AWhen we look to clean sheets, we're number 20.
Speaker CLet me ask you this, Patrick.
Speaker CWhen we were asked by Tanner last year how many clean sheets we were going to get, you remember that?
Speaker CDo you feel like your answer drastically changed going into this year compared to last year's hopes?
Speaker CFor sure.
Speaker BLike the season prior, I always thought, I mean, there was hope the season before and the season prior to that that you could be optimistic.
Speaker BLike, we'll get a clean sheet again.
Speaker BWe'll go on a run of a couple clean sheets.
Speaker BOr like we were more so talking about injuries to our defenders or lack of, like, does this certain defender play better defensively because he's in there playing more offensively and it's leaving us wide open where now I don't feel like that's the same sentiment.
Speaker BI mean, you can look at the stats, there's a bunch of shots, but you're not getting like, Accurate shots on target and stuff like that.
Speaker BSo when you're talking about saves in a game someone has to make, you're still talking about like three or four saves.
Speaker BI mean, we're looking at maybe way more shots on paper, but we have way more defenders in front of the ball.
Speaker BWe're getting so many blocks per game or deflections that they don't have shots on target.
Speaker BSo I feel like a lot of the blame now is off of the defensive line.
Speaker BThey're doing their job.
Speaker BThe goalkeeper now has to step up and be relied on three or four times a game.
Speaker BAnd I know that's punishable because you're not getting a lot of touches on the ball.
Speaker BYou're not seeing the ball a lot.
Speaker BBut it's these other factors that add in.
Speaker BLike, there was in the second half, Zamudia, the ball goes out and he literally rushes to throw the ball back in to take a goal kick, and he kicks it down the middle of the field where three player opposition players are that could have easily just intercepted it if they were paying attention and turned and went to goal.
Speaker BI casa dribbled and then cut back and created space out of it to relieve that pressure.
Speaker BBut it's these mental errors that keep happening with this guy, and it's terrible that we have to harp on it.
Speaker BBut, like, when you look at the rest of our team away.
Speaker BAway games are tough.
Speaker BWe're performing, we're trying to get some points, but at the end of the day, we're talking about goal differential.
Speaker BIf you can't stop the ball going in the net, you have no shot at ever drawing or coming away with points.
Speaker BYou simply are just not.
Speaker BIt's not going to happen.
Speaker BAnd we will look at these home games that we're winning.
Speaker BIt may be a shutout, or it may be five to one.
Speaker BLike, it's.
Speaker BIt's not.
Speaker BBecause we're just only getting clean sheets at home and we're winning one nil.
Speaker BLike, our energy is up and our attackers feed off of it, and they put more in than the opposition.
Speaker BWhen we go on the road, we're flat.
Speaker BWe fall flat every time, and there's a mistake.
Speaker BI mean, the first goal is on Zamodio, the second goal on Zamudio.
Speaker BLike, how.
Speaker BWe can talk about the goals, but, like, how do you let something bounce off your chest?
Speaker BFace?
Speaker BI get it.
Speaker BIt's turf.
Speaker BIt may have taken, like, a different skip.
Speaker BIt still hits you in the middle, and you're the only guy that can use your hands.
Speaker BIt shouldn't bounce 15 yards back off of your body.
Speaker BThat just means you aren't paying attention.
Speaker BYou have no awareness of how this ball's coming at you.
Speaker BAnd it wasn't some world strike that like deflected off and he had, he was just turned the wrong way and it hit off of him.
Speaker BIt hit him square in the body.
Speaker AIt bounced.
Speaker ASo it lost the momentum.
Speaker AAnd I think back to that.
Speaker AHe knows better than anybody else how that ball is going to react on turf.
Speaker AAnd if he knows he can't handle it into the chest, he needs to punch it away, something.
Speaker ABut he tried to grab it, push.
Speaker BIt to a side.
Speaker BLike, clearly something's not working.
Speaker BThe last place you put it is just, oh, bounce right off me.
Speaker BRight back in the middle.
Speaker BAnd if you want to give him the pass on that, it happens.
Speaker BOkay, look at the second one.
Speaker BYeah, there was a cross.
Speaker BIt was to the outside of that six yard box where the guy's window to score is like this.
Speaker BThat's your angle and he's standing there and it goes through his body.
Speaker AIt.
Speaker AIt was like this.
Speaker AIt was this much.
Speaker CIt's.
Speaker BI think about that old relativity thing of like molecules, like theoretically your body could pass through a wall if all your molecules lined up.
Speaker BAnd I feel like the ball's molecules lined up with his body and just go through them every time.
Speaker AExcept for the one that bounced off his chest.
Speaker BThey were a little off on that one.
Speaker BThey were about to go through.
Speaker AWell, I was, I was thinking, you know, maybe he gets a little break on that.
Speaker ABut he still should he.
Speaker AHe should have blocked off it come very near post.
Speaker AI think the header was even kind of slow because the guy I think was backpedaling and falling backwards.
Speaker ASo it wasn't like I had a lot of pace on it.
Speaker BTalk about the first one.
Speaker BHis reaction time to it bouncing off of him.
Speaker BI mean, you got, you got to react then, right, Ryan?
Speaker ARyan, you're.
Speaker COh, absolutely.
Speaker CWhen you read and when you actually watch it, his head doesn't react until it quits him.
Speaker CLike, he's not like, like you said, he's not watching it.
Speaker CIt's not even seeing where the ball is.
Speaker CHits him square on the chest.
Speaker CAnd at the same time, my question goes to.
Speaker CWe're a club who's not afraid to rotate keepers.
Speaker CIn the past, we, I remember looking at it and we rotated keepers quite a bit, relatively like each season we had commensity for a bit and Tyler Mewes was only here for a bit and then went to Grinny Granny was only here for a bit and then so on.
Speaker CWhy are we giving Z I get Zeus young then.
Speaker CHe's young.
Speaker CBut why give him so many chances before now?
Speaker CI'm not saying get rid of him, sell him.
Speaker CI'm saying just to side by him to get him to see.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIs there not such a thing as inform?
Speaker BLike you take other players off the pitch for inform where Pyraman has rotated every position.
Speaker BHe still does it.
Speaker BYou have guys in form and he rotates them off like they'll come on and sub on and play, but everyone gets rotated.
Speaker BI mean we had two goalkeepers on the bench for this game.
Speaker BIs that, is that not insane?
Speaker BLike who travels with let's take two goalies.
Speaker BI don't get that at all.
Speaker AOn a trip halfway cross country.
Speaker AIt's not like they're just driving over to Charlotte or something.
Speaker CAnd, and my thing is too is that if the only reason why you wouldn't switch is if in training he's outperforming the other two.
Speaker CRight.
Speaker ASo who's making that decision?
Speaker CI'm just either goldkeeper, Toch talking with the head coaches and the technical staff and them saying here's our one or it's been given straight up calling he's our warrant and not budging on it.
Speaker CIf or if he is truly outperforming the other two in training,.
Speaker BHow does.
Speaker CShe scrap it then?
Speaker CThe whole lot, the whole, the whole bullsheeping core maybe need to be re looked at.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AIf he's, if that, if he's the best of the lot.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker CInvested a lot.
Speaker BBecause we see these guys play in other games and they look completely fine.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo yeah.
Speaker BMaybe change the training maybe.
Speaker BLike if he looks great in training, something's wrong with the training because there's no way this guy should be getting on the field with his reactions to the ball, just flat out reactions to the ball and what he's seeing on the field.
Speaker BHe's spending way Too much time 1v1 or with goalkeeper because he needs to be in full field play mode every single practice to get better at this position right now because he is just not seeing the ball correctly.
Speaker BHe's not seeing where the opposition are and he's not positioning himself correctly in any aspect of this.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CAnd then like there's small grills where you're doing like the.
Speaker CI mean it's like what a 15 yard field in full size goals back to back and it's like you go 2v2 then 3v2 in this little quick games because you're just going to quick rapid shots.
Speaker CYou have people right in front of you and it's a shot on target every single time.
Speaker CAnd it's just getting the keeper to react.
Speaker CThat's all it is for the keepers.
Speaker CThere's.
Speaker CYou're expected to get scored on, but you're those.
Speaker CThe goal of it is just to get a touch to it.
Speaker CCan you react?
Speaker CHow fast can you react?
Speaker CAnd then when you start making saves, how many saves in a row can I make as a keeper?
Speaker CAnd that's how it should be looked at.
Speaker CI just don't think it, you know, I would like to like to know more about it and shows exactly what you just said, Patrick, about the training and stuff.
Speaker CI absolutely agree with you.
Speaker ASo how does that affect your defense in front of you and your midfielders?
Speaker AWhen you can't rely on the keeper to get ball of the net for.
Speaker AFor arguably.
Speaker BStoppable walls, it affects confidence all the way through.
Speaker BI mean we, we literally have nine goals in the last 10 minutes of a game.
Speaker BWe did it this one to go ahead and level it in the 81st minute.
Speaker BYou should not be giving up a goal.
Speaker BI don't care that you're away.
Speaker BThey weren't out playing you at that point.
Speaker BLike you made some substitutions.
Speaker BGetting back into this subar is making good defensive plays.
Speaker BLike even the cross that came in on that final goal, that's good.
Speaker BYou're pushing it further away.
Speaker BYou're getting the guy almost on his back foot and he still scores off of it.
Speaker BLike no one should ever.
Speaker BThere's no power behind the ball.
Speaker BNo one should be scoring that goal.
Speaker BLike, honestly, I know everyone listening is probably sick of us bitching about it and I'm sick of talking about it.
Speaker BLike I want to talk about, hey, why didn't this guy score this easy goal?
Speaker BOr who, who's better at crossing up top or creating these plays?
Speaker BLike at the end of the day, if you can't stop the ball going in and I know it's beating a dead horse but like no one, nothing else matters.
Speaker BIf you're not going to stop the ball going in, who cares?
Speaker BYou're.
Speaker BYou're already starting like with one hand tied behind your back.
Speaker AAnd goals are hard to come by.
Speaker AThey're not something that just get something given to you.
Speaker AAnd so to give a goal away now all of a sudden you've got to score two to make up for that.
Speaker ASo if it's hard enough to score One goal, then all of a sudden you got to step it up twice.
Speaker CAnd then you go into exactly what you said earlier about the confidence and where does the confidence go and how does this affect our team?
Speaker CWe have seen this battery team time and time again come from behind wins.
Speaker C80Th minute, 90th minute game winners.
Speaker CRemember those late winners last year where it's like, okay, now we're coming back and getting into these games now, so we.
Speaker CCan we get into a game where we're scoring the 90th minute winner?
Speaker CCan we get in there and score those late wins?
Speaker CWe did.
Speaker CNow we're at the point where these boys sacrifice so much in the past that when the mistakes continue and they're consistent, how much more can we go?
Speaker CThat's just another way.
Speaker CI like seeing it.
Speaker CYou know, I'm just trying to make sense of, like, what is going on with these players.
Speaker CBecause 81st minute goal, you're the away team.
Speaker CThe other team's not been pressing you for the last 20, 25 minutes and you've been in control.
Speaker CYou have every right to go and win that game in the last eight minutes.
Speaker CYeah, you're going to get the ball right back off kickoff because they're just going to kick it away.
Speaker CThey're flat, but it score within the next four to five minutes.
Speaker CThat's a typical.
Speaker CThat's very typical.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BGuys, we're getting into August.
Speaker BThis isn't like, oh, it's fine.
Speaker BLike, season goes till October.
Speaker CYou.
Speaker BYou want to be playing well at all times yet alone.
Speaker BNear the end of the season, you want to start clicking more.
Speaker BYou want to be like, you want to see guys being like, oh, it's fine.
Speaker BLike that one.
Speaker BThat one's on me.
Speaker BLike, you want to be accountability out there and people being like, no, man, don't worry about it.
Speaker BIt's on me too.
Speaker BLike everyone, it's.
Speaker BIt's becoming this thing again where everyone looks lost because there's nothing built up anymore.
Speaker BLike, you know, we can get scored on not from like some insane goal, Everyone can live with that, but we can get scored on from some kick.
Speaker BAnd, like, what does that do to you as a team?
Speaker BYou just, I mean, half the time you feel like going out there, like, hard to say it, but, like, who wants to go play if, like, I mean, it doesn't matter how much effort I put in.
Speaker BIt could be like some bullshit shot and it'll go in like, cool.
Speaker BThis is like little kid stuff.
Speaker BWe're at a professional level.
Speaker BWe're talking about should the Battery be entering in the first division of the future, relegation, promotion style tier of football in this country.
Speaker BYou have to be consistent with the results and build this reputation.
Speaker BNow more than ever you have to start putting it in as hard as possible.
Speaker BYou should be going for record breaking points in a season, wins, breaking breaking records for most wins in a season.
Speaker BLike you should be going for these stats, making a splash on some big name signings up top or defensively or goalie to go ahead and just get the name as high as possible.
Speaker BBut when it's just like mundane win, mundane lose, oh, we'll win home games, we'll lose away games, it's hard to make an argument for a team to be like, yeah, you should go be in that first division.
Speaker CAnd right now it feels like they're banking off of their previous success from years past and the fact that they're considered the oldest operating club and within the US right now, that's not going to get you anything because when you reach the final like they did and had success for those two years afterwards, they needed to show the consistency.
Speaker CMaybe winning one, maybe two of those definitely would have put them in a contention right now.
Speaker CBecause you look at them right now, the stadiums are in second place.
Speaker CThey've always been towards the top.
Speaker CFor the past four years, I'd say four years we've been towards the top half of the group and we've been consistent with that matter.
Speaker CBut that's not consistent enough to be automatically deemed Division 1 or the top tier right away.
Speaker CThat doesn't guarantee you that we don't have.
Speaker CWe have to have that, build a fan base and everything.
Speaker CWhereas all these other clubs are building excitement.
Speaker CYou have Athletico, Dallas coming in, who just signed Chicharito.
Speaker AThat crazy anyways.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CAnd they just built.
Speaker CI mean, what was their stadium size?
Speaker CIt was like 200, 385 million.
Speaker C3.
Speaker CI think it was 385 or something like that.
Speaker CI mean, you should look up their stadium.
Speaker CIt's going to be absolutely incredible.
Speaker CTheir planes are out and everything.
Speaker BThis is also part of the conversation.
Speaker BLike we don't have as battery fans, we don't have a stadium talk project to get behind or like any insight to what the club is doing to try and push towards that level.
Speaker BLike I get it, real estate's crazy expensive.
Speaker BWell then the opposite needs to happen.
Speaker BWe need to be so dominant on the field that it's like, hey, we're going to get a big name sponsor or investment party to come in and go Ahead and be partners on a new stadium.
Speaker BLike, you have to create the excitement somewhere else.
Speaker BLike, we're not.
Speaker BWe're not excited because we're.
Speaker BWe're in talks to maybe get a stadium built.
Speaker BWho knows, Backdoor stuff.
Speaker BWhat happens?
Speaker BLike, there's no upgrades to our current situation from year in, year out.
Speaker BLike, they actually took stuff away and then just gave it back to us.
Speaker BAnd it's like, here, this is new.
Speaker BI mean, okay, great, but, like, what's the next level?
Speaker BWhat.
Speaker BWhat's going to take us there?
Speaker BLike, Ryan mentioned, we should be winning one or two.
Speaker BWe need to win something.
Speaker AI mean, cool.
Speaker BYou get to the conference finals or you get to the final.
Speaker BWe haven't won it.
Speaker BWe don't win the cup tournament.
Speaker BWe don't even get out of group stage half the time now.
Speaker BSo, like, as fans, we care about silverware.
Speaker BAnd going forward, your position, finishing in the table is going to matter.
Speaker BWell, finishing second's not going to matter.
Speaker BIt's finishing first.
Speaker BWe haven't finished first in however many years.
Speaker BSo I just.
Speaker BAs a fan, you want to see something for all the work and effort put in.
Speaker BI know the coaches do, I know the players do.
Speaker BBut, like, collectively, something's got to switch because we can't just keep getting bounced in the first round of playoffs anymore.
Speaker BWe need to make.
Speaker BNot a deep run.
Speaker BYou need to make a legitimate, like, go and retain the players again.
Speaker BI know we lost some of our most prominent players, our captains, but they're aging players.
Speaker BWe should be able to.
Speaker AWhat are they playing?
Speaker BThey're in the same league.
Speaker BLike, yeah, but regardless, they're aging players.
Speaker BYou should be able to find another player or at least scout who's in the league and doing well or other teams that are the league below or mls.
Speaker BAnd I mean, we brought Barry in.
Speaker BI thought he was going to be phenomenal.
Speaker BBut, like, honestly, I thought Subaru would be the greatest signing we had at center back.
Speaker BWe haven't.
Speaker BWe play him at center, defensive mid, and he kind of looks lost out on the field.
Speaker BHalf the time he's there.
Speaker BSo, like, I, I'm just kind of watching this, like, blah play and nothing like, prominent happening.
Speaker CBut then Pat, like, what you're saying there too, like, you know, you would think that they would be scouting, right?
Speaker CLike, they, the battery don't have scouts they rely on.
Speaker CDo they know and what their needs are?
Speaker CThey just watch a game here and there with the coaches and that.
Speaker CLike, that's it.
Speaker CLike, there's not an active scout Going to a certain, certain strategic games and looking at certain players, especially at lower.
Speaker AThere's so many not with therapy.
Speaker CSorry.
Speaker AThere's so much out there that scouts don't have to necessarily go out to watch players play because there's so much technology out there that allows people to go to scout people without leaving their living room.
Speaker AMaybe that's what's happening.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker ABut I do know is that we've.
Speaker AWe last three matches we had a loss, a draw and a loss.
Speaker CThink about this at the end of the day when you're sitting on that computer screen and you're only seeing this little box and the field looks endless.
Speaker CThink about all the other things that are on that field that you're missing out on.
Speaker AWell, I will say this, that there was a team that got rid of all their scouts that were long distance and all of a sudden won the league this year.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker CYou kept throwing our scouts in places where they could see the players.
Speaker BYeah, they scouted all their guys and the job was done.
Speaker AYeah, we don't need scouts anymore.
Speaker AWe've got all of them.
Speaker ABut we've talked about this earlier.
Speaker AWe're in second place.
Speaker ASo it's not like we're down, you know, hovering around ninth and we're heads and shoulders better than those teams down there.
Speaker AOh, maybe just shoulders, maybe not heads and shoulders.
Speaker AAnd we're kind of grouped in with goal with points with about three or four other teams.
Speaker AOne of them's got a game in hand on us, so we're not dying.
Speaker AWe're just kind of on the low part of that sine curve.
Speaker AHopefully.
Speaker BIn a three way for a second as well.
Speaker BYeah, basically it's not standalone and we're also eight wins, six losses.
Speaker BIt's not like, hey, everyone's doing pretty good and performing.
Speaker BEveryone's been shit.
Speaker AI mean what sets Tampa Bay apart from us is, well, they have two other wins, but they've had five draws and only two losses.
Speaker ABut they're still, I mean points wise they're quite a bit above us.
Speaker ABut everybody else, you're right because losses we have six, Detroit has five, Louisville has six, Pittsburgh has eight.
Speaker AAnd it goes from down from there.
Speaker BHave some good players on Tampa Bay apparently.
Speaker AHopefully we got some good money for them.
Speaker CAnd for those who think that, you know, maybe the Battery doesn't have enough to get in based off of their, the team itself to make the top division, but because of the player awards on top of their team, awards that they've won that they should also get in with the likes of Mark McKinnon and the success of Fidel Barajas.
Speaker CNick Marcanic, you got Trey Muse going up to mls.
Speaker CYou have, I mean, Derek Dodson with few other midfielders as well, all making those big jumps.
Speaker CAnd end of the day though, when those players go after the season, you have to backfill them and you don't see the repercussion or the effect that over in Europe when you buy a player and that money kind of trickles down to the other clubs, to the beater clubs, you don't see that over here as much.
Speaker CAnd I don't think the clubs can really recover financially from certain sales of players.
Speaker CAnd I feel like that there is.
Speaker CThere's a lot of.
Speaker CThere's a bigger tie of loyalty overseas rather than here in America.
Speaker CWith sports, when you go to certain teams, like in certain situations, there's never.
Speaker CI feel like there's never really a thing about loyalty.
Speaker CHow much if you're one man and not one man.
Speaker CThe casa.
Speaker CI feel like out of anybody in the entire usle, if you want to talk about loyalty, it's going to be cogger.
Speaker CIt's always going to be in the question andor is going to be in the discussion.
Speaker AWell, let's talk about.
Speaker AI'm looking at, you know, our top players on our team.
Speaker AMy football.
Speaker AFootball Brady and assist and top score.
Speaker AI think we can all agree that Jeremy Kelly is killing it for us.
Speaker AIf not for the play of.
Speaker AOf him, Messer and Aaza, we'd be in a lot worse shape.
Speaker AAnd I'll throw in some goal scoring by Swan and Foster.
Speaker ABut when we have 32 goals at all all season and nine of them come from the bench, what does that tell you?
Speaker BIt tells you leagues running a lot of people dry and the bench is coming and collecting.
Speaker BSo like for instance, in this game, you don't start Malik.
Speaker BMaybe he's that game changer.
Speaker BHe is our, I guess you could say, like the Nick Marcanic where he draws the attention because they have to kind of account for the speed.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BNick was different, but Nick could cut back and kind of do it.
Speaker BYeah, but like you have to account for speed.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker AMalik find himself in spaces that nobody's predicting he's going to get.
Speaker AJust sitting behind the goal on the.
Speaker AOn the beer garden side, just that close to him and seeing how quick he is and seeing that, having that vision.
Speaker AI know we talked about a lot of negative stuff, but let's talk about some positive stuff.
Speaker AI mean, first of the season, he wasn't even playing.
Speaker AI think he was getting some minutes later on in the match.
Speaker AAnd now I think he's your.
Speaker AOne of your go to starters should be.
Speaker AAnd he's 29.
Speaker AHe's still wearing people out.
Speaker CHe's a good.
Speaker BHe's a good outlet.
Speaker BLike, you have one.
Speaker BA guy who can take the space and potentially create a foul and earn a free kick or at least drive the ball forward and give opportunity to create this space for your other team members to fill.
Speaker BWhere we didn't really have that before.
Speaker BWe had guys who can go and take the ball, but they would dribble slow.
Speaker BDribble slow, dribble slow.
Speaker BI mean, you think of.
Speaker BOr wingers with Juan, David and Gutierrez, and like, they would go, but, like, they're not really drawing guys.
Speaker BThey're kind of just waiting.
Speaker BAnd it's allowing the other team to backfill defenders in where Malik kind of just.
Speaker BIt's go time.
Speaker BLike, if.
Speaker BIf he gets the best side of you, a foul's coming or someone has to come commit to that side and completely leave a guy open.
Speaker BI like him.
Speaker BI. I think he should be starting more games.
Speaker BI think a lot of guys should be starting games because it's the reason you bring them in.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ALike Cabrera.
Speaker BYeah, maybe.
Speaker BMaybe we have the, like, again, the.
Speaker BHas been doing awesome.
Speaker AYep.
Speaker BBut what type of team are we playing?
Speaker BWe need a little more, like, initiative.
Speaker BI'll take the shot like Kelly.
Speaker BKelly and ikaza seem pretty on par for me.
Speaker BSo Cabrera seems like he's going to be that guy to take the responsibility and take a shot or dribble at someone a little more than the other two.
Speaker BSo I think we just need better recognition of our competition in those scenarios,.
Speaker AKind of horses for courses kind of thing.
Speaker ALet's see who else.
Speaker ANathan Messer, he's put.
Speaker AHe's still launching balls in there and doing fantastic corner kicks, and I think causing a mess for people because you got to go out and play him because you know he's gonna launch it in, and his accuracy on putting it on where it needs to go is fantastic, I think.
Speaker BWhat do you guys think about Krill?
Speaker BI think Krill should be a permanent starter in this.
Speaker BI think we're.
Speaker BWe should be done with the super CDM experiment and Krill should just be in that spot.
Speaker ADo you think?
Speaker CAbsolutely.
Speaker CThat was my.
Speaker CThat was my preseason talk with y'.
Speaker CAll.
Speaker CThat's who I would.
Speaker CI would own Krill.
Speaker CHe was going to be one of those dynamic players that.
Speaker CEssentially taking over that Malloy void.
Speaker CWithout replacing Malloy.
Speaker CYou're getting Krill now.
Speaker CThat's.
Speaker CThat's who you're getting.
Speaker AOkay, let's switch gears for a second.
Speaker CYes, I got a little second.
Speaker CYou're ready to go.
Speaker ALet's talk about our next match.
Speaker A7:30 Kickoff.
Speaker CNo.
Speaker CSo no.
Speaker CWell, this next match should change us.
Speaker CIt's.
Speaker CThis is.
Speaker CThis is actually a very pivotal game.
Speaker CThis next one at home against Brooklyn, who sits second to dead last in the group or in the East.
Speaker CAnd they beat us this season 3 to 0.
Speaker BYeah, I mean, we gotta win.
Speaker CIt should only be about returning the favor this weekend.
Speaker CAnd there should be a shutout this weekend.
Speaker BShould be.
Speaker BBut he has plenty of options to choose from.
Speaker CI'm still going two to one.
Speaker CBattery wins.
Speaker BGranite.
Speaker AI'm going four or nil.
Speaker AWe're pissed.
Speaker AWe come off a low and we're just gonna bust it.
Speaker AWe're gonna.
Speaker APeople coming down from Brooklyn, they're gonna be heartbroken.
Speaker CYou think they travel well?
Speaker AThey're from Brooklyn.
Speaker AThey travel.
Speaker AYeah, why not?
Speaker AWe'll find out.
Speaker AThey don't play very well.
Speaker AThey only have three wins.
Speaker CYou know, I'd be very curious to see how, because there were quite a few people from New York who live here in Charleston now.
Speaker CI'm very curious to see if any of those New Yorkers put on a broken version.
Speaker AYeah, go ahead and try.
Speaker AYeah, go ahead.
Speaker ATry that.
Speaker AYeah, we'll raise their taxes.
Speaker AThat's what we'll do.
Speaker AMake it even with theirs up in Brooklyn.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker CWhat did your support, Patrick?
Speaker AWhat's your prediction?
Speaker BYou tell me who's in net?
Speaker CYou tell us.
Speaker CYou can say clearly.
Speaker BClearly, nothing is going to change.
Speaker BSo I'm gonna go with a 21 defeat.
Speaker AOoh.
Speaker BI think we're gonna go down two goals first half and then get one back later in the second half and then try.
Speaker BReally fight for the equalizer and not get it.
Speaker AOkay, that's fair.
Speaker CSo Franklin's first season in the USL Championship.
Speaker AThey're gonna come in, take his home.
Speaker CAnd away in their first season.
Speaker CListen to this guy.
Speaker CIn their first season, they're gonna come in and sweeps the Battery, who are again trying to convince the league why they should be in that top league.
Speaker BAnother team did this, right?
Speaker BDidn't.
Speaker BDidn't allow us to win.
Speaker BWasn't that Rhode Island?
Speaker BDidn't they go win it?
Speaker BWin at all?
Speaker BI'm not saying Brooklyn is going to win at all.
Speaker AI'm saying and they're sitting at six right now.
Speaker ABut they only had 15 games too.
Speaker BBut we don't, we never play up.
Speaker BWe don't get up for these shitty teams.
Speaker BThey never like build up and play well.
Speaker CBut we have to be able to convince the league and the people why we need to be up there.
Speaker CIf we're not able to show that it's going to hurt us.
Speaker CLike, I'm not saying it's impossible.
Speaker AWe know that.
Speaker ABut they just got to win matches.
Speaker AWe got to get game by game.
Speaker AEvery game's a final.
Speaker BIf we don't have a prominent showing this weekend, we'll finish six, fifth or sixth.
Speaker BI really feel like that.
Speaker BI feel like it.
Speaker CWhere do you think right now?
Speaker CRight now, season, we have what, eight games left?
Speaker CNine games left.
Speaker CQuite a bit.
Speaker BWe have seven, I think seven home games left and then like four or five away, maybe six away.
Speaker COh, we got eight, 13 games left.
Speaker CAll right, so 13 games left.
Speaker CProbably about what, a fifth of a season left.
Speaker CWhere do you think we finish now?
Speaker AWell, hey, this is what I'm looking at.
Speaker ASo Indy and Rhode island, they're, they're, they're 15 games played.
Speaker AThey're 21 and 22 points, respectfully.
Speaker ASo if they win their next two matches, that puts them at 17 games with us and they're Rhode Island's above us and Indy be tied with us.
Speaker BIf we continue this way with not going in away games and getting anything out of it, we can drift fifth place.
Speaker BYou can't just rely on home games.
Speaker BYou have to go get something somewhere and it's not go win, don't, don't lose.
Speaker AYeah, that's it.
Speaker AWe should come away with a point from Colorado.
Speaker CAbsolutely.
Speaker CWe should have came away with a point.
Speaker ANow I wanna, I wanna switch our focus on some of our, the advertisements that use the battery.
Speaker AAnd there's a certain law firm that apparently has none of the current battery players except for my studio on it.
Speaker AIs that, is that fair play or should we call his law firm and tell him to stop running that ad,.
Speaker BGive him his wins where he can get him.
Speaker AYeah, I guess so.
Speaker AI'm just joking because Mark Pepper has this thing as whatever his things is where he takes his corner kick.
Speaker AHe's got Malloy still there.
Speaker AHe's got them all in there except for some video.
Speaker AI can't remember who the other player we still have is, but most of them.
Speaker AArcher's gone all of them.
Speaker AMaybe he predicts who's going to leave.
Speaker BClearly Zudia stays.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AWhat else you got?
Speaker AIs that it?
Speaker A7:30 Patriots point.
Speaker AEveryone bring their aame.
Speaker ALet's pack that place.
Speaker ALet's make it loud.
Speaker ALet's let the Brooklyn people hear how strong we are, even though we.
Speaker AWe're kind of in low part.
Speaker CLet's go.
Speaker BSomething.
Speaker BCome on, boys.
Speaker CSomething, something.
Speaker AGive us some hope.
Speaker ASome hope.
Speaker AOkay, guys.
Speaker CWe are the fleet.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker CIf we will sink.
Speaker CBut we.
Speaker CWe are the battle ra.

